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Tell Us: Are You OK With Guns on the Rail Trail?

Do you find a "no weapons" rule on the Saucon Rail Trail appropriate or objectionable?

A comment thread recently begun by an individual on the Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association's (PAFOA) online forum focuses on a "no weapons" rule in effect along the .

--who was --is located along the trail in Hellertown's .

A PAFOA user from Northampton County named Micky writes that when walking the popular trail in the borough, he stopped to read a sign that outlines rules for its use.

"Now, for once, I did not have my weapon on me, nor did my wife," Micky wrote June 13. "Part of (the sign) said 'no weapons.' Now, the trail isn't privately owned, so I was asking myself 'wtf?'"

Micky writes that he was concerned about his Second Amendment right to possess a firearm possibly being infringed upon, and subsequently called the for more information about the posted rule.

He ultimately visited Borough Hall, where he spoke to a Hellertown police officer, acccording to the account posted online.

"(The officer) said that yes, OC (Open Carry)/CC (Concealed Carry) are legal, and that the law is aimed more at hunting rifles, because the trail goes through the woods, and they don't want hunters taking their rifles and hunting off the trail," according to Micky. "He also said, however, that if I carried a handgun, to keep it concealed. I asked why?"

The officer, Micky writes, "said that while OC (Open Carry) is legal, that if they got a call from someone saying that there is a man with a gun on the trail, they'd respond, detain me momentarily, 'take my weapon, and check to see if it's registered.'"

Micky says he was concerned about this answer, and other PAFOA members offer varying opinions about it on the lengthy comment thread that follows.

"Why take my gun? What registry are you talking about?" he asks.

What do you think? What do you think of guns being carried on the trail--either in the open or concealed (if an owner is legally permitted to do so). Tell us in the comments below.

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Jarhead1982 July 1, 2012 at 07:04 pm
Of course, this fear of the law abiding, of which you cant identify carrying a concealed weapon, is the same as a little child's fear of the mythical boogeyman.
A monster of a childs imagination which they cant show, see, much less articulate into reality. All without the fear of the criminals who by government data, (USSDOJ National Gang Threat Assessment, annual report) commit the massive majority of violent crimes. which when combined with suiciders (over 92% of all deaths by illegal use of a firearm), justifiable homicides, and accidental deaths account for all but 7.5% of all illegal homicides. So the truth is, this reference back to Vida's inferred claims is indeed relevent as it clearly identifies her as an anti gun person, hence the lack of credibility so prevalent in their lack of data or facts to defend their unsubstantiated fears and position.
Jarhead1982 July 1, 2012 at 07:21 pm
Sadomasochism? -an innate and primal urge to control and dominate- sure sounds like anti gun extremists, but if it is your personal choice, have at it.
Projectionism? - projection onto another of the disturbed persons inner most fears of themselves or actions - we cant trust you with a gun as I am terrified of "what I would do". Hoplophobia? - an inate fear of an inanimate object-how silly and childish that is eh! Fetishism?- a belief that an inanimate object has supernatural powers to load, aim and fire itself - as if a gun is a sentient being and the root cause of violence as the anti gun extremists all infer. Sexual Fetishism? -a mental disorder/disorder of sexual preference if it causes significant psychosocial distress for the person or has detrimental effects on important areas of their life - wow, what a perfect description of an anti gun extremist. Mythomania (Pathological Lying)?-Pathological liars tend to come up with their lies compulsively and are often unable to back up their lies when questioned further for details- sure sounds like the anti gun extremists unable to demonstrate real data and facts rather than their afraid of the mythical boogeyman what if's stories and fantasies. Schizophrenia? - the advanced stage of fetishim where these supernatural powers imbued by the ill person to the inanimate object, allow it to use voice or esp commands to someone in close proximity to force them to commit a violent act, For all the above, see lowersauconguy
Vida Frankenfield July 1, 2012 at 08:11 pm
Mickey, I may not know as much as you do about guns,obviously that very subject is your obsession. I had my college education, and probably know more about life than you. Do not criticize other people, who you do not know. Do what you want and I will do the same. You have your interests, and I have mine. Wise up!!! I never said it was the gun's fault, which is totally absurd. Good Luck learning more about life, and how fast one can be taken away.I do not hate guns, but I would never have one either!!! Happy trails to you! Vida Frankenfield
Micky July 1, 2012 at 08:21 pm
"...learning more about life, and how fast one can be taken away."
Lady, usually I don't pull this card, but you just stepped in it: How fast life can be taken away eh? I'm a Marine. I did four years service to my country. I served two tours in Afghanistan. I lost more friends than I want to think about. I'm not trying to talk a big game, but what do you know about how fast a life can be taken away? My best friend was killed in action in September of 2010. My former squad leader was killed in action in May of that year, my friend was killed before that, in March. A friend of mine lost both legs just this past January. I've been shot at, rocketed, and mortared. I've 'seen the elephant'. Do not ever talk to me about "...how fast life can be taken away." You don't have the first clue.
Vida Frankenfield July 1, 2012 at 08:33 pm
Micky, I am extremely sorry for your losses.If I stepped on your toes, I do apologize , this is what I mean about not knowing someone well enough to comment on someone's personal comments, and yes I do have a clue, one that I will not discuss with you or anyone else. Vida Frankenfield
Vida Frankenfield July 3, 2012 at 04:00 pm
This is the second incident put on this site about guns, one was a false report, another by a person firing at swimmers, both times, the trails were mentioned, why??? V. F.
Brick Barns July 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Blaming good gun owners for the crimes committed by criminals.
Josh Popichak (Editor) July 4, 2012 at 02:53 am
Hi Vida, I thought that both stories merited links to (this) earlier story about guns on the trail, since the issue seems to have struck a nerve with many people. Both stories also related to public safety concerns, and of course editorial judgment was involved. Josh
Vida Frankenfield July 4, 2012 at 04:23 pm
Hi Josh, thanks for your comment. I think these stories are all publicity now and should be forgotten, and hopefully everyone will live peacefully. We all have our own opinions, and I will respect that, let us just live our lives the way we have been, unless something seriously happens, then we can decide how to approach the issue with a public meeting, or possibly a crime watch program for all residents.What do you think? Vida Frankenfield
Vida Frankenfield July 4, 2012 at 04:27 pm
Hi Brick, you probably are right! Let me know what you think about the idea of a crime watch program? Allentown has one, maybe it will stop the criminals in their tracks, maybe not, any other ideas?
Vida Frankenfield July 4, 2012 at 04:33 pm
How about you Micky, are you in, if we find the need to organize a crime watch program?Vida
Micky July 4, 2012 at 05:53 pm
You said it yourself: Allentown has one. Look at the crime rate of Allentown. Allentown even had the Guardian Angels for a while...and it didn't do a single bit of good. Neighborhood watch can prevent some minor crimes, but their impact is minimal. There have also been problems with neighborhood watch groups going 'vigilante' and causing more problems than they solve. If I'm walking down Main Street at night, and get confronted by regular citizens, they are going to receive a rather pointed rebuke, and told to stand aside. 'Citizens arrest' is a joke, and all they can really do is observe and call the police. Quite honestly, from a practical stand-point, it isn't effective enough to merit implementation. So, in short: thanks for the offer, but no thank you, I have no interest.
Pat Riot July 4, 2012 at 06:37 pm
The problem you're facing is not too many guns, but the lack of them. It would help everyone and show people what gun owners are like if you organized monthly get-togethers where you all meet up at the entrance to the trail, armed with a gun and some trash bags, and do a litter walk. You'll get to meet some great people, let folks know you're friendly, and make the trail a nicer place to be. Crime will go down, you'll have a great time, and if you go to a restaurant after the walk, you'll get some great publicity.
Mary Anne Looby July 5, 2012 at 01:22 am
Mr. Layton, I absolutely agree with you.
Mary Anne Looby July 5, 2012 at 01:30 am
Hellertown vs Saucon Valley (not LST or UST)
Mark Albright July 5, 2012 at 02:54 am
I'd like to make two points. First, I am a progressive and a member of the American Civil Liberties Union. Secondly, against the apparent stereotype, I am a stalwart supporter of Second Amendment rights. Indeed, as the years advance, I grow ever *more* convinced of the wisdom of enabling one's self-protection in an increasingly hostile world. This is not paranoia, nor is it right-wing hysteria. It is simply a matter of continuously assessing and reassessing the environment around me and making decisions best calculated to ensure my personal security and that of my loved ones. Please do not assume that all progressives are anti-gun ownership, any more than all philosophical political conservatives are lunatic fringe tea party nutjobs. We all need to live together. Ownership of firearms for hunting, target shooting or personal protection is a cherished right of all Americans for well over the past two centuries.
Brick Barns July 5, 2012 at 10:39 am
Crime Watch ? Are we ignoring crime ?
Brick Barns July 5, 2012 at 10:40 am
Because of the 2nd amendment, we can kill cops and soldiers if the govt goes rogue.
Micky July 5, 2012 at 02:52 pm
Mark Albright, I thank you, sir. Despite our differences of views on many issues I am glad to see that you are a supporter of our 2nd Amendment right. If I may ask, what caused someone from a group who usually identifies with the gun control lobby to break from the norm and be such a staunch supporter of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms? I must say, I am immensely curious. Thank you for your comment, and I look forward to hearing more from you on related issues, should they crop up.
Micky July 5, 2012 at 02:55 pm
Brick: dude...bad form. One thing we do NOT want to talk about is the killing of law enforcement or military members. That's just a general poor idea. How about trying a different tactic? This one simply won't fly.
Brick Barns July 5, 2012 at 05:19 pm
Dude: what is the purpose of the 2nd amendment ?
Micky July 5, 2012 at 05:36 pm
Defense, among other things. From others, from tyranny, from boredom even...but talking about killing police officers and military members...that just won't fly pal.
Micky July 5, 2012 at 05:53 pm
If common sense weren't enough, think about this reason for not saying that: this forum is being watched by either a) law enforcement from surrounding municipalities, or b) someone who will gladly let their friendly local LEO know what's being said. Neither of us speaks for all gun owners, but when people read what we write, some of them are going to lump everyone of us into the same group. I don't want to shoot at cops, or my brother vets. I don't want to be classified in with people who readily would. I'm not in any militia, I'm not into conspiracy theories...I just want to live, carry my gun, and be left alone.
Pat Riot July 5, 2012 at 06:25 pm
I would suspect that the poster is a member of the Brady Campaign. It is well known that they will come into forums like this and play, "Redneck Hillbilly Crazy psychopathic Gun Owners," to discredit lawful gun owners. What people don't understand is that, generally, gun owners have no problem with the police. In fact, the NRA trains thousands of police officers every year.
The police grew out of the Night Watch (VigilAnte) when instead of everyone pulling guard duty at night, a group would be chosen to do that for us and would be supported by the community. There is nothing wrong with police, unless they exceed their authority - and then there are solutions... complaints, petitions, even lawsuits. Guns? Not going to happen, at least not in today's world. However, the Brady Campaign benefits whenever the press is negative toward gun owners. Posing as a gun owner, usually with the line, "I'm a gun owner and have a number of guns, however, I have no problem with common sense gun laws...." Then goes on to present the disarmament argument that the Brady Bunch love so much, which is, "If you give up your gun, when a criminal attacks you, they will just take your money or body, not kill you, so you are really safer." So don't let this paid Brady Shill Blogger get under your skin, you're not talking to a real person, at all.
Brick Barns July 5, 2012 at 09:30 pm
You mean to say (you're afaid to say it) "defense" from cops and soldeirs if or when the govt goes rogue (tyrannical or oppresive). You've been brainwashed to not say many things in this country. The 2nd amendment is not about your "boredom".
Here's what cops and soldiers did at New Orleans after hurricane Katrina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4&NR=1
Brick Barns July 5, 2012 at 09:38 pm
I live in Westmont, Illinois, and every cop in Illinois knows me and where I live. They do because Amerika has become a nation of jackbooted thugs. The 1st and 2nd amendment are for speaking out against Govt (our worst enemy) and so we can be armed if the Govt goes rogue. Cops are the Govt's strongarm.
None of us wants to shoot anyone, good or bad. I'm not into your conspiracy theories either. And MILITIAS are as American as apple pie (the word 'militia' is in the Bill of Rights). I wish the cops would leave me alone, but they won't because they think they have the right to know what every American is thinking because they don't respect the Bill of Rights. If cops respected the 2nd amendment, YOU would not be afraid to say what the 2nd amendment is really for.
Mary Anne Looby July 6, 2012 at 02:08 am
@Brick Barns, what are you doing on here? You don't even live in PA. You are some wacko.
Brick Barns July 6, 2012 at 11:10 am
Would you force me to leave the Trail, Mary ? Huh ? Would you demand the jack-boots send me home to Illinois ? Do you expect visitors to show their papers when they reach the border of PA ? Should everyone be searched ?
"You are some wacko." [Mary] Are you a psychology expert ? Do you have an advanced degree in psychology ? No ? Then why use dogma to control another Americano ?
Mary Anne Looby July 7, 2012 at 01:38 am
Yes, maybe, no, no, just the wacko's. Close enough, again close enough, because you are a wacko. Go away.
Brick Barns July 7, 2012 at 08:59 am
You appear hysterical.
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Bert Macklin June 18, 2013 at 08:49 pm
Wouldn't it be comical if it all just went to the landfill anyway? With single stream recycling,Read More all the sorting is done at the recycling center using a complex system of belts, grinders, magnets, and people. The glass is usually all crushed anyway to be melted down, so it doesn’t matter whether it happens at the truck or later at the facility. The fluorescent tubes shouldn’t have been thrown into the hopper. (Probably a result of under trained employees, the result is just a little mercury.) At the facility, magnets will grab any cans and people will sort through the plastic, paper, and cardboard. By letting the facility do the sorting, you tend to have increased participation rates. Increased recycling = more recycled paper, glass, and metal to be sold on the commodities market and less trash in the landfill.
Debi Barrett June 18, 2013 at 08:56 pm
Since I barely have any trash due to y diligent recycling efforts, I wash and separate all my stuffRead More and take it to the Illcks Mill Rd. center Thak you Andy's trash service for picking up when I need to put out the stuff I cant recycle!
Walter June 18, 2013 at 09:06 pm
Maybe the Referential Universal Digital Indexer does exist. Such a series of pulleys, cogs andRead More sprockets would be quite elaborate. Magnets would be useless with almost all cans being aluminum.
Cindy Cicero June 18, 2013 at 10:57 am
I had a cat missing for 16 days once. Go out after dark, when its quiet and take her favorite treatsRead More with you. Walk slow and call her, shake the bag of treats and listen. She was in a bush a 1/2 a block away and was hungry. unless someone has her inside. Good Luck...
Mark Petruno June 11, 2013 at 06:28 pm
Hopefully, Bud Prosser or Danny Ruth reads this article ... they would be of great assistance....
Roger Jurczak June 12, 2013 at 03:21 pm
This information is being sent to the Saucon Valley Conservancy which operates/ manages the HellerRead More Homestead. While Bud and Dan cast a larger net, I believe the Homestead might be a better place to start.
Daniel Ruth June 12, 2013 at 04:02 pm
Geez, wouldn't it be great IF they could hold their reunion right at the Homestead??
Allan Bach June 11, 2013 at 03:13 pm
Of course, Eric, one could fall out of bed due to an IED exploding in the next room. YourRead More Niemöller quote is often used to show how being silenced, usually through fear, will eventually play out. Today it may read: They came for the: 1) Christians (not endorsing homosexual marriage, abortion, or contraceptives) 2) Conservatives (having the audacity to desire a budget, reasonable taxation, and a Constitutional government) 3) People who post on Patch, and similar sites, having opinions with which others disagree, prompting name calling and ridiculing of the opinion writer. Andrew's piece is his expression of his government. Should events keep unraveling, though, I don't think he will have anyone for which to vote in upcoming elections.
Wazzy June 11, 2013 at 03:21 pm
The difference is, i am ok with this and it does affect me. I speak out on what i beleive to beRead More injustices and cruelties to both man and animal, putting my money where my mouth is as well. Including the many times i have raised both my voice and my pen to the fact that we are removing God from our country and the terrible affect it has had. May i recommend the movie "Last Ounce of Courage" .
Eric W June 11, 2013 at 06:12 pm
Allan, I agree with what you've said, religion in general and Christians in particular have beenRead More targeted and compromised, conservatives are the target du jour for the IRS, anyone wanting a Constitutional government is on the possible terrorist list, voicing an opinion contrary to the state's views is now considered treason. Finding that you have no one to vote for comes on the road to enlightenment, that there is no practical difference in politics between Republicans and Democrats in the things that matter, namely The Rule of Law and prosecuting fraud and corruption. Speaking of which, one area that Andrew left out that has, IMO, contributed significantly to anti-US feeling is the financial frauds and shenanigans invented and used by Wall Street and the US too-big-too-fail, too-rich-to-jail bankers and financial manipulators. Talk about an evil empire! They make a billion, and thousands die of starvation. They make a trillion, and a million get foreclosed on. And, more often than not, they rewrite the laws to make what used to be considered fraudulent and immoral, legal and GAAP.
Hugh Gallagher June 11, 2013 at 09:34 am
The phone call monitoring is only a PART of the spying . You didn't mention the other parts of it..Read More But,in the last paragraph, you make the judgement "successful policy without damaging the right of Americans from the danger of big brother". You apparently trust the motives and good intentions of all of those politicos who have access to the data that has been mined. None of us , however, know the extent of that data.
Allan Bach June 11, 2013 at 11:13 am
In the perfect world of Joel Katz, the United States would have one political party. RepublicansRead More (hypocrites or not) would be damned. Must everything be seen through the lens of political party? Isn't it possible that, no matter who is in office, breaches of power exist and mistakes are made? Our Republic is based on laws. Why? Because the natural tendency of people is to act with self in mind, many times ignoring how our actions may affect others. As I've said many times, if people ignore speed limit signs on I78, why would those same people abide by some Constitution prohibiting searches without warrant? I agree with Joel about protecting our citizens by "abridging civil liberties". However, the NSA, FBI and CIA have, with the new digital technology, surveillance powers over our own citizens that the Stasi – the secret police in the former "democratic republic" of East Germany – could scarcely have dreamed of. Let's put this in perspective. Democrat, Republican, or other party affiliation does not guarantee our rights as citizens will be protected. This is a matter of responsibility of those elected to abide by our laws. Welcome to the Internet world of data warehousing, Joel. Because we've used certain key words, our posts are now being stored in the NSA Data center in Utah.
Arthur Joel Katz June 11, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Allan Bach's comment is well thought out. My only disagreement with it is his suggestion that IRead More would prefer one party rule, the likelihood of which is nonexistent. To be clear, I don't countenance the government reading our emails or listening in to our telephone calls without a warrant. Otherwise, I don't see that tracking communications (without reference to content) is so severe a violation of our civil rights that we should sacrifice our safety by banning it.
Stephanie May 1, 2013 at 09:04 pm
I have a yardsale that day so I can't make it and I'm so bummed! If you have fleece or other itemsRead More that fray well and would be good for rag quilts or blanketsl leftover please let me know! Stephie_lou2@hotmail.com. I'm new and just started these so I'm super bummed!
Jeanine Dimmick May 23, 2013 at 01:37 am
Hi Stephanie, We have flannel-- solids and prints still available, and flannel frays well. PrettyRead More sure cotton/poly also frays well, and we have a good deal of that. We have fleece but I do not think it frays- it can be cut w/fringe on the edge and it maintains the fringed edge. Also makes great blankets. My e-mail is jdimmick@cavtel.net. Please reply and we can set up an appt.! Jeanine
Dawn Newman January 5, 2013 at 09:21 pm
HAPPY TO REPORT...TEQUILA has been found and is SAFELY back home with me... THANKS TO EVERYONE WHORead More HELPED US FIND HIM!!! We would have never been able to find him without your help!
Dane Janas May 31, 2013 at 02:40 am
I do sympathize with this letter to the editor, however, a "do not enter" sign is exactlyRead More that, whether you are accessing businesses beyond that sign or not. Nobody goes the wrong way on Clarke Street just because they want to go to CVS; the same is true here. As someone who lives in this immediate area and who uses Hess Avenue daily to access his home, I do however understand the writer's frustration with the new traffic patterns that have been forcibly imposed on Hellertown's north end. However, I've had too many close calls at the barricades at the end of Hess Avenue to sympathize any longer. The road from Main Street to Oak Alley is one way west, there are a large "do not enter" sign, two "road closed" signs and two "one way" signs correctly stating this in that area; the same is also true for Roth Avenue. I realize the gas station and garage being there pose a problem, but it is breaking the law. I live right near the barricades and never have a reason to go around them. Do the right thing - go around to High Street, sit in traffic with everyone else, and access the businesses at the end of Hess Avenue that way. I don't like it either, but it's just how it is now. And a warning to all reading this article - MANY residents of Hess Avenue and the surrounding streets have complained about motorists' blatant disregard for these "one-way" barricades, and police have agreed to be stationed at the ends of Hess and Roth Avenues much more often going forward.
Dane Janas May 31, 2013 at 02:44 am
However, I also think the barricades should be moved closer to Main Street, allowing people toRead More access the gas station, but not to exit onto Main Street using Hess Avenue. Essentially keep the barricades how they are, but move them up to the entrance to Main Street.
Vida Frankenfield May 31, 2013 at 05:11 pm
I know you must obey the law, and most of us drivers do, on the other hand, they (constuctionRead More companies) could also make it easier to obey the law by considering where the barriers are placed for the convenience of the drivers, who need to get into certain areas without the entrance being blocked.
Christine Widgren May 24, 2013 at 02:33 pm
When I try to take an alternate route into Easton, I encounter "Road Closed" barricadesRead More along Industrial Drive and try another route through Glendon along the Lehigh and there are massive barricades and closed roads and bridges there as well. Add to that the High Street debacle where work has not even started yet. But the Rail Trail advocates must be happy....now they can walk anywhere they want between Hellertown and Bethehem and not encounter any moving vehicles.
Hugh Gallagher May 25, 2013 at 09:52 am
Today I watched the Dewey ambulance try to go north on a jammed 412. It makes no difference if youRead More blow your siren and flash your lights, when the street is clogged, cars can't yield for the emergency vehicle if there is no place to go. This goes beyond inconvenience. It is a safety issue.
Hugh Gallagher May 25, 2013 at 10:20 pm
There are 2 areas of congestion that are very short in length (less than 100') where widening wasRead More started 8-9 months ago but not completed. These are the Silvex Rd between Wendy's + Turkey Hill and the stretch of Main St northbound between Cherry Ln + the 78 eastbound ramp. If these 2 areas were made available for travel, it would help reduce the congestion. Cars could then leave the Park + Ride and turn directly onto Main St . This would also make it easier for them to go straight onto the westbound ramp. At the other area, if a right turn only lane was made available from Cherry Ln to the eastbound ramp, it would eliminate some congestion.
GrowUpSaucon May 16, 2013 at 09:31 pm
From my personal experience with this sorry excuse for school board members, Everyone -includingRead More Ralph Puerta and Ed Inghrim do not give a hoot about the taxpayer.
Arthur Joel Katz May 16, 2013 at 09:46 pm
Dear Ralph, While I do not withdraw what I said, I appreciate your handling this in your usualRead More friend polite manner, and I appreciate your friendship which I certainly return.
Mark Morawski May 20, 2013 at 11:57 pm
To Mr. Puerta, I have been a resident of Saucon Valley for 16 years. In that time, most of thatRead More with you on the school board, my taxes have nearly DOUBLED. Teacher Salaries, have wait for it.... nearly DOUBLED. Our test scores, well I wish I could say they Doubled too, but well..... For you to be running as a fiscal conservative is as amazing a bought of hipocracy as I have ever witnessed in Politics..... Please if I am wrong, correct me. Let me know what the Millage rate was when you took office, and what it is today? or perhaps the per student funding when you took office (to a larger enrollment) and what it is today..... Or perhaps the average teacher salary..... Or even better the annual raises for the union when you were Schoolboard chairman? Don't get me wrong, you have been a duly elected Collectivist ( means the subjugation of the individual (in this case tax payer) to a group (the NEA).... Perhaps a leopard does change his spots..... You will probably be re-elected by populace and your challenge is to be the fiscal conservative you now purport yourself to be....
Arthur Joel Katz May 17, 2013 at 12:00 pm
6. Just for the record, I have opposed the last three teachers" strikes and I am not in favorRead More of just throwing money at problems. 7. If the board was serious and the community was serious, they would have adopted my suggestion that all athletics at Saucon be abandoned and the saving, about a million dollars, would be used for educational purposes. When I made that suggestion at one of the superintendent's meeting to develop a million dollars in savings, Bryan Eichfeld rose from the audience to say that he liked my intention but he thought the schools should provide for a well rounded education. There was no sense in pointing out the irony to Bryan that he had favored cutting teachers, purchase of need books and other educational improvements to graduate "well rounded" students who could play football, basket ball and field hockey but couldn't think. Bryan, of course, is now on the board. 8. I agree with Bert that the outsourcing of the buses is a terrible idea for exactly the reasons that Bert says it is.
Bryan Eichfeld May 17, 2013 at 08:51 pm
I love ya, of course I'm against books....I'm a neanterthal....I opposed one book and that was aRead More propaganda piece that in every chapter clearly stated that Man-made global was destroying the environment in all areas of the world.... and again you ignore that our Student to teacher ratio is lower than when you were on the board... we didn't replace some retiring teachers to keep things in balance. It is interesting that when I try to find this back and forth on the Patch, you can't find it anymore so I guess I will stop wasting my time on this.
Mark Morawski May 21, 2013 at 05:16 pm
Dear Mr Katz,, I am sorry I didnt find the patch sooner. Please explain why you didnt disclose theRead More Teachers union affiliation of those you endorsed?.... Perhaps the public doesnt need to know? Also please take a position and state what you think our teachers who average a Measly 98K a year for working 5.5 hours per day, for a 160 days work a year are entitled too? Its ok to write editorials, but they should disclose the facts and backgrounds..... There are two Fiscal Conservatives running in this election, and an additional two who are self purportedly reformed big spenders.... the rest of the candidates are NEA members or the family of the same... The saddest part of the whole thing is what are we getting for our investment of paying teachers in the top 5% nationally? Certainly not top 5% test scores.... Yes I am a parent of two Saucon Valley students by the way.